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[00:00:00] Okay, podcast listeners. I am so excited for this conversation today. I've got Ali thi with us, and we're gonna be talking all about hormones and intimacy. Um, we're doing a whole hormones month here on the Women of Wellness Podcast, and I thought this would be a really great topic to cover and I can't do it justice.
So I wanted to bring the expert on Allie, will you introduce yourself and tell us more about you, what you do, why you do. That and all of the above. Well, hello everybody. I am Ali Thi. I am a sexologist board certified integrative wellness coach, sex coach. Um, I have been talking about sex for a very long time.
It's, it seems most of my life in one realm or another. Um, I have taken on, uh, going with, uh, sexual desire and hormones with perimenopausal women or postpartum women. Because they have plenty of hormone [00:01:00] fluctuations as well. Um, because there's not a lot of information about it. And women think, oh my God, this is my life.
Like it is, and it's not there. It's not. Um, I have a very deep toolbox, so I, I, I can come up with a solution for just about everything. Uh, I am back in school actually for my, uh, PhD in mind body medicine, and I start my dissertation this fall, which I'm really looking forward to. And it's, it's focusing in on female sexual desire, because that is my thing.
Yeah. I love talking about it. I love it. I love it. Well, I'm so glad that you're here with us, and I'm really excited that we're gonna get your wisdom. So why don't we just start right off and talk about what can, what can change in desire when women approach maybe perimenopause, menopause, since that's kind of the age range that we're talking about.
Um, this month, what, what happens? [00:02:00] Well, it's like the floor. It like you're in a trap door and you fall through the floor is what it's like. Um, because one moment you go into bed, you are feeling fine. Maybe you just had the best sex of your life and you wake up and you're like, eh, you don't need it anymore.
You don't know why. You know, but you feel like you don't need it. You don't think about it and your partner's like, oh, hello. What about me over here? Uh, when, when we hit hearing menopause. Our hormones start to leave us, and I always say they start to leave us without a kiss or a date. Goodbye. Uh, the e our estrogen drops, and that is what is controlling our, uh, our lubrication, our vaginal lubrication, um, to testosterone is leaving us, and that's our sexual desire hormone as well as our physical energy and progesterone.
Is leaving us. That is, that's our, I call that my happy hormone. [00:03:00] Uh, that helps to regulate mood quite a bit. Um, but with, when those, when those three hormones start, start to dip, you definitely can tell the difference in your life, um, sex wise and just every, every faucet of your life, something is going on because of perimenopause.
Yeah, and I, I guess what I appreciate about about this, the start of this conversation is that, you know, there's some physiological changes happening, so don't think you're crazy or feel like I should just be able to like muscle through it, right? Rather, it's like, okay, your body is actually shifting and now we need to learn how to work with the shift.
Correct, correct. You said muscle through it. I'm, I'm Gen X and that, that is our whole, we in our entire life, muscle through it until we hit, until our age group hit perimenopause and we're like, WTF, what, what in the world is this? Because [00:04:00] our mothers didn't talk about it. Our grandparents did different. So we were the first generation to hit it and, and start investigating.
What, what was going on? Yeah. When, when estrogen drops, especially for, um, your intimate life, there were so many different things that happened to, um. Poor vagina, and I call her the angry vagina because that's actually what she becomes the poor thing. Um, when estrogen leaves, you don't mind if I just jump in this, do you go for it.
What happens? Okay. When estrogen leaves, um, the vagina, it starts to, uh, shrink. So girth wise, so it shrinks down to almost, um, virgin level tightness, and then it also shrinks, um, vertically. So it actually gets shorter. Uh, the ridges that we have inside the vagina, they straighten out. So it's not as easy to [00:05:00] feel when there's something in there and to, to let it, you know, excite us to the end a little more difficult.
And, uh, the, the tissue, we get vaginal atrophy and our tissue gets very, very thin. Kind of like it reminds me of a. Um, a sheet flapping in the wind. If you ever put your clothes outside to dry, maybe your, your mom dead or your grandmother, um, that's how thin it gets and when anything enters it rips it. So you get that enormous pain.
It's like what's ever going in? You is surrounded with knives. It's, it's co it's, it's like a little monster coming to get you. Um, it hurts tremendously, but of course there are ways, there are ways that we can, we can work on that. Uh, whether it's hor, you know, getting hormones. Should I talk about that?
Would you like me about getting hormone replacement therapy? Would that be Yeah, you could probably just kind of give us maybe [00:06:00] some of the, the things that could help. 'cause I, I, I know I'm thinking to myself, somebody listening is like. Uh, that doesn't sound good, right? No. And it almost is like, does this feel like a lost cause?
No. You know, and so maybe you could say, okay, well we can combat that with yes, we can combat that with I I'm a person of solutions. Yes. I I never think the end is, at the end is the end until it's actually really, really the end. Um. But you can get, uh, hormone replacement therapy or bio hormone replacement therapy.
That's something you would have to talk to your primary doctor about or your OB GYN. Um, they have replacement therapy for estrogen or progesterone. They'll give you progesterone if you still have your uterus by the time you hit this stage. Um, that's it. See, it is a very common conversation to have with your doctor.
The place, it gets a, a tad bit tricky in the [00:07:00] hormone. Is when you ask for testosterone because doctors still labeled testosterone as a guy's hormone. And while granted men have plenty of it, uh, but women, we need it too. That's our sex drive and our physical energy. So a lot of doctors will kind of push back on you not needing it.
Alright, uh, you push back again at them. Alright? Stand up for yourself. Advocate for yourself, you. The only person there that cares more about what's going on with your body is you. So you have, you have to push and demand your rights, period. Um, if they do give you testosterone, it's what they call off-label and they send it to a compounding, um, pharmacy where they'll synthetically make you testosterone.
Um, that usually comes in a cream, so. You can get hormone replacement therapy or [00:08:00] bio hormone Replacement therapy is usually, um, created with pregnant horse urine. That's hormone replacement therapy. Bio hormone replacement therapy is when a pharmacy takes three different plants, and of course, I forgot the third, but I know there's wild gam and alfalfa.
I think the third is soy, but I wouldn't, I wouldn't, you know, bet on it. So just what I think it's, and they compound it to match your, to match your hormones. Uh, but it's, it's a definite conversation to have with, with them. Uh, if you can't get hormones, and there are people who can't take hormones for one reason or another.
Um, there are other things you can do. There are over the counter vaginal moisturizers. Okay. Um, bonafide is a company, you could find 'em online. Bonafide is a fantastic company that makes vaginal moisturizers for, for women, and a lot of women don't like taking it [00:09:00] because it's a suppository. Nope, nobody likes taking a suppository anywhere.
I don't care who you are, but it greatly helps. It tremendously helps. And then when it comes to having intercourse at any I point in time, um, you need a good lubricant that goes on you and whatever's going in you. Um, so, and there's no such thing as, oh, we use too much either la lather up as I call it.
Yeah. Um, but it, it, it will make sex a lot more, uh, pleasurable for you and your partner. Your partner will feel better if you're feeling better. I love that. I think that's important, you know, is recognizing that you can do what you need to do to support your body in these changes. And there are all kinds of ways we, we recognize that.
We can't stop the aging process. You know, we, we can't change what's happening in our body necessarily, but we can [00:10:00] create support mechanisms and that's what I love what you're here, what you're sharing with us is like, there are ways that can support some of these changes. So any woman listening that's like, things are changing.
We're still allowed to say, okay, things are changing. It's different and I get to take a different approach now and there are other ways to do this. While still enjoying it. Yes. And still being fulfilled as a woman. Yeah, very much so. 1, 1, 1 thing to note, um, hopefully I can say the word orgasm on here.
It's a podcast. So I don't think we have any algorithms that get us, um, just to let you know, it takes longer to, to, to achieve that, that desire. Um, if it used to take you maybe, I don't know, let's say anywhere between 10 20 minutes. Once the action starts going, it can take 30 to 40 minutes. Um, the further along you are in perimenopause and then your one day of menopause, it's only [00:11:00] one day, the 365 days since the last time you had a period, and then you go into postmenopausal for the rest of your life.
Glad, um, yeah, just thought I'd bring that part up too. Yeah. So let's take maybe kind of talk like what are some of the most common misconceptions women have about libido, intimacy during midlife? What, what are we fighting against or what are we thinking? Well, since there until now, there has been a lot of education about the menopausal journey, right?
So when women, when they find that their sexual desire has dropped and that, uh, they're not lubricating. Hardly at all anymore. Their first thought goes the same place their partner's thought goes, oh my God, maybe I'm not attracted to them anymore. Maybe I don't, I I don't love them as much anymore, which is exactly what your partner's thinking.
Maybe she doesn't love me anymore. Maybe she's not at Attract, or, and I've heard this lot, plenty of [00:12:00] times. Maybe she's having an affair. The other side because the frequency of sex drops back. Um, and it does become more painful because you're not lubricated. That, that's, that's the biggest misconception, first of all, is the fact that they automatically go to, oh my God, I don't love my partner.
I, or my husband, or my boyfriend, my girlfriend, whomever it may be. Uh, something else, um, that happens is, well, this, this must be old life. I'm just gonna, I'm just gonna grow old with everybody else and, and dry up like the Sierra Desert gonna strip up to nothing. Uh, I, I, I've gotten that a lot too. Um, you won't, you won't if you take steps, um, to help, to help correct this.
Uh, but men, you know, if women, we don't know what's going on, you know, we're still searching for answers. Men definitely do not know what's going on. [00:13:00] Okay. Um, and a lot, and something else I hear is not only do men accuse their partner of cheating, um, it's, it's, it's not even cheating with one person. It's like multiple people, you know?
They, they, they, everything gets blown completely. Out of, out of proportion. And when women just accept that, okay, I have no libido, I'm dry, I'm done with sex, and then they start worrying, oh my God, are they gonna cheat on me because I'm not giving them what they want? So all of a sudden, on both sides, we've got this cheating thing going on, the fear of it.
And uh, you know, once that hamster wheel starts to run, it's pretty, it's pretty tough to shut it down. That worry. So I'm, I'm telling you, there's no need. There's no need to get to that worry because there are things that, uh, can be done. And I've talked to many, a husband, [00:14:00] many a husband to let them know about menopause and perimenopause and that, A, she's not making excuses and it's a real thing.
And B, she's not cheating on you. Yeah. As far as I know. Yeah. She didn't tell me she was. Um, so yeah. Does attract, does attractiveness change? Like, you know, we're talking about intimacy, right? Sex, but like the, the initial, like attractiveness does, do hormones affect that? Like the, the desire to even like start that process, start the intimacy?
When you're with somebody for any period of time, you're gonna get out of the infatuation stage. Yeah. And the infatuation stage is when you wanna jump on each other and rip each other's clothes off. And the rest of the world doesn't matter. It's a wonderful high the ride. It really is. Um, but it always crashes down.
Some of it [00:15:00] crashes, some of it goes downhill slowly, but you either turn into, uh, love or you turn into dislike of one another. Um, yep. And there goes, there's something else menopausal. We'll just throw this out here. Brain fog, because I just forgot what I was gonna say because I forgot that because I forgot the question already.
Yeah. Um, just attractiveness about, you know, attractiveness. Uh, so. The women I've talked to still are very much attracted to. Their partners, regardless of their age, regardless of how long they've been together. Um, one thing I, I do tell people when they're trying to, uh, jumpstart the, the desire trying to jumpstart the romance again, because once it fades away, it takes a little bit of time to and, and effort.
There's always effort, uh, to put things back together again. And one thing I love to tell my clients is to create a romance routine. And this is something anyone can do at any time. [00:16:00] What this does is, one, it creates your bedroom into more of a lower sanctuary, which I like. And two, we're getting your brain on board because our minds are our largest sex organ.
Everything goes through there, everything. So a sex rou, our sex routine, sorry, a romance routine. You can also have a sex routine if you want, but a romance routine would start something like you go into your bedroom and you light a candle. Okay. Um, you put a playlist on your phone of favorite songs for the two of you, and I always tell, uh, people to put on songs for when you first started dating, when everything was new and exciting and you couldn't keep your hands off each other.
And life has not intruded yet. Okay? There wasn't the house, the kids, and the jobs and everything else. Uh, it was pure lust. At that point in time. So put a playlist like that on your phone. Turn that on. Um, there [00:17:00] are four different essential oils that help with arousal and libidos. Um, and I'll tell you, they are, um, a Lang Lang, which is spelled Y-L-A-N-G, hyphen Y-L-A-N-G.
Um, lang. There is clary sage, um, orange blossom. In cinnamon. Now with this romance routine, you would pick one of the four and put some drops in an essential oil diffuser. Like is this a video podcast? Well, yeah. Like I have behind, like I, I have behind me, um, there's a, a oil diffuser and that way you have, you have that aroma going through.
It's really nice. And then lastly, maybe take a scarf or a T-shirt and throw it over your A lamp in the room to create some mood lighting. If you do this [00:18:00] two or three times, by the time you get to the fourth tongue of light, that candle, your brain's automatically gonna go. We know what's coming up. We know what's coming up.
Let's send out the troops. You know, everyone's gotta get ready. We're gonna have sex, and your body starts kicking on. Because it realizes what's coming up, what's the end game here? As opposed to just going into your bedroom and just doing it, you know what I mean? There's, you're getting your, your brain involved be when you haven't had intimacy in a while because of, could be hormones, you know, perimenopause or, or something of that nature.
Um, a lot of times you'll go into the bedroom and. One or both of you will be an automatic pilot and your brain's gonna be someplace else during, during sex. And if you guys do the same way all the time, then it's muscle memory, you know, A, B, C, D, [00:19:00] and you don't have to pay attention. That's the horrible part, is you don't have to pay attention and your brain's off someplace else.
Doing this romance routine engages your brain from step one this way. Your brain is there, you're present. And you know, if, if in this routine, because as we age, different things that turned us on in our twenties and thirties don't necessarily turn us on in our forties and fifties and above, you'll, you'll be able to pay attention.
Say, Hey honey, hit you. Move your hand over here. This is a good spot, not that spot anymore, this spot. So it's always, it's always good to. To try the romance. It's fun. Yeah, I love that. You know, I've been trying to do a little bit of romanticizing my life idea where it's like I try to make cool situations or like if, like I'll read outside in the warm, in the sun or like I'll go out.
First thing in the morning on my [00:20:00] patio or like light a candle or listen to some music when I'm doing, um, the dishes. You know, 'cause who likes to do the dishes in general? Nobody. Nobody. But, um, trying to like add that romance and that, I really love that you're saying like, let's bring that into. The, the bedroom too, because it really helps get your mindset in the right place.
Right? No, whatever you're romanticizing is where your brain goes. And as you were kind of talking, I just, we, I shared with you, um, I just gave a presentation in our women's wellness hub, our membership community of women's health after 40, and just considerations and all of that. And, and I shared this with them and I thought this is a good place for it.
Um. You know, I think there's Dev, divine Design for menopause being at the age that it's at later in life because Yeah, we spend our early thirties. I know, I know birth is getting a little bit later. Some women are having babies later. Yeah. Um, but you know, we spend a lot of [00:21:00] our, our. I guess prime fertility years taking care of others, um, and, and, and getting into the routine of giving, giving, giving to others, and the transition into menopause.
Um, typically, you know, women don't have little kids that they're just giving, you know, pouring into all the time. And it's a transition to say, I get to spend this time on myself. And what you're talking about really is. Giving women permission to say like, let's get those your needs met. They may take a little bit longer, they may require a little bit more effort, and you may not be used to that because you know what it's like to give, give, give, give, give.
And now it's an opportunity for your body and your brain and your body to kinda like reconnect and say, Hey, what is it that we need? And this takes some time and I get to give back to myself. And I love that. Yes, yes. It's one, it's wonderful [00:22:00] to be able to give back to yourself, you know, and you know, some, something else is very freeing as you age, um, is that you don't really care what other people think.
This has nothing to do with sex. I know, but it's, it talking about being freeing. We spend most of our life worried what other people think. Trying to please other people in the give, give, give that we're doing that I'm 58. When you hit my age, you, you don't care. Just don't anymore. It's, it's, it's a wonderful feeling.
I love that. Okay, so we kind of went down the, you know, like setting up your environment a little bit romantic, you know, having that romantic routine. Let's, let's kind of shift directions a little bit a addition here. Um, let's talk about nutrition. Are there food, are there nutrients that can support increasing libido or energy levels to then move forward with that?
There, there are foods that help with, um, estrogen production and [00:23:00] testosterone. Um, that, that, that can help you move forward. Uh, testosterone. Trying to remember off the top of my head. Uh, I know oats, um, tuna, blueberries, the strange combination that I remembered, but there you go. Uh, but no, that's great for testosterone.
Um, what's great for estro, uh. Avocados. Yeah, it's just, it is completely left my head. But you are correct. There are foods that help and as we're, as we're talking, what I'm gonna do is give my brain rest, because I obviously cannot remember this, and I'm gonna pull up my cheat sheet. There you go. That's something else you do.
As you age, you make cheat sheets. They're a wondrous thing. Not gonna lie. See? Yeah. There we go. Um, so like estrogen, flax seed. [00:24:00] Chickpea hummus. I love hummus. Of course you made with chickpea, um, you know the sunflower seeds? Sesame seeds. Apples. Wow. Pom pomegranates if I said that correctly, are some good estrogen supportive foods.
Uh, some testosterone ones. As I mentioned, we have eggs, forgot about that one. Uh, oats, tuna, um, avocados actually, along with testosterone, coconut oil. Who doesn't love coconut oil? Watermelon. And I love my dark chocolate. Thankfully that is a testosterone supportive food. Yes, thank goodness. Um, and also things that for food, as you age when you hit perimenopause, you can't, um, handle the sugar as much as you used to or processed foods or alcohol.
Um, [00:25:00] and again. Just 'cause of my age and my, my generation, gen X, we grew up on that stuff. I mean, literally, my, my snack as a kid was sugar bread, white bread, sugar on top. That is, that is what, that is what I grew up with. So, um, you know, shifting. Shifting those things, the, the sugar and the processed food.
And we didn't even have processed foods. We were growing up. So when processed foods came on the market, we can go to the grocery store and pull something outta the freezer and throw it in. Oh, that was heaven. So, and a lot of jux, we, we tended to, um, go home to empty houses because both parents were working during that time.
That's just when that started, uh, happening. So, you know, pizza, rollups. All those, those dic, fried jalapeno poppers, all those wonderful things, uh, and can't forget the alcohol, which was a staple at all Gen X [00:26:00] parties. Back then, so moderation. It sounds like we need to be more aware of what we're putting in our bodies.
And this is a little bit of plug for everything I teach around here because we talk a lot about our relationship with food and having food freedom, and if you don't have the ability to know and listen to the needs of your own body, you're gonna struggle even more through this season of life because.
We, our bodies maybe can't handle them quite as well. I've even noticed that, you know, I used to be, I was also raised on all of those foods, Pop-Tarts, everything. Oh my God, yes. Yeah. And um, just, I, it is funny 'cause I could, I could pound sugar. Like I could, I was a treat, I loved treats. And then, you know, as I've gotten older, I'm like, man, that affects me way more than it used to.
And it's kind of annoying at first, but then you're like, okay. Well, I have to know that I can have control over this, right? I can have that [00:27:00] balance and I can enjoy one piece of chocolate instead of five. And, and so this is a really good place to remind everyone listening that it's important that your relationship with food is also really good because there are going to have to be some adjustments made in your nutrition, um, to support your body as well.
I love that. Definitely. Definitely have to make some shifts and I am a throwing some zodiac. I'm a typical Taurus. Okay. I love, I like my ways and don't try to make me change, but I tell you what, you know, I, I've changed the way I, I eat, I probably knocked out most of the sugar I, I have and I don't eat processed foods anymore.
Bring in more fruits and vegetables. It was, um, oh my birthday back in May. My son's like, well, let, let, let's have pizza. 'cause we don't have pizza anymore. Let's have pizza. I'll buy you pizza. Fantastic. Because I love pizza. Had the pizza, ate it. It was [00:28:00] wonderful. Going in. And then I, and then I went to sleep and woke up the next day and I'm like, oh my God.
Did a mack truck run me over? I felt horrible. All my joints ached. I had a headache. My body's like, please stay in bed. You're old now, you bed. But I right there, that, that was all the proof I ever needed that, uh, can't eat that anymore. Yeah. Such a, and, and I think sometimes we all have to go through those experiences to just be like, okay, this is a good reminder that my body is in.
He is not 20 anymore and that's okay. That's good. There's so much, like you mentioned, there's so many good things about this age too, and I think that's a good, you know, mindset shift to remember is like you get to be in a different stage, in a different season of life. So I. Let's just say, you know, women are maybe approaching this transition.
Um, lots of my listeners are 35 [00:29:00] plus. Um, I know not everyone, but, um, we're, we're in this transition either perimenopause, many menopause. What do you want to tell women who are struggling maybe with libido? Or intimacy or hormone related changes, and maybe they're just kind of feeling alone. Don't know where to start, don't know how to talk to their spouse.
I know that's a big loaded question, but help us just get some hope. Well, I, I wanna let everyone know that you're not, don't go through this alone, okay? Do not go through this alone. There are women just like you who have hit the same spot you're in. Uh, there is help out there. If you, if you, even if you Google menopause support, there are things there are besides me, there are thi other agencies, other people who do this, um, support is growing for perimenopause and menopausal women and thank God it is, um, Amazon's got a, [00:30:00] Barnes and Noble have, uh, lots of books now on perimenopause and menopause.
So, you know, go there and, you know. Go to your library, check the books out if you don't wanna buy 'em, but start educating yourself about what's coming up this way. You're not going to be so surprised when it happens because perimenopausal, there's over 50 symptoms that you can get, and not everyone gets every one of them, of course.
But you might wake up one day and all of a sudden your shoulder's killing you. Well, maybe you might have slept on it wrong, you're thinking, but it keeps hurting day in and day out. Come to find, you have frozen shoulder. Well, that is one of the symptoms of perimenopause frozen shoulder. I had 'em in both.
So, you know, uh, it's, if you know what's coming down the pike, you can prepare yourself. Okay? You can start changing your eating habits now as well. You know, start, [00:31:00] start. Putting together that body who was ready for this next step, this next wonderful step into freedom is really what it is. Uh, it's a pain.
Not gonna lie. It's not, you know, we're not hopping down Sesame Street, but it is a wondrous shift, but you're prepared for it to happen. And there is help out there. I love that. And I was just thinking as you were saying that like every month period is a pain too, so this is a freedom. So I, I, yeah. I was never so happy in the world when that didn't show up anymore.
I'm not gonna lie. It does sound really nice. Um, I love that. I, I love that message. I think that's a really good, like closing message is just educating yourself and learning. And I think that that's the biggest shift that's happened probably in the last five years. Even. I, it's been very recent. At least I.
I've been aware of it recently that there's more conversations happening and you kind of mentioned that throughout, um, as we were talking, [00:32:00] like have more conversations, more conversations with your friend, more conversations with your doctors, more conversations with your spouse or your significant other Yes.
About what's going on and being frank and open and honest. And I know that's not always easy if you haven't, you know, worked on communication. But again, you mentioned this is a beautiful time of freedom and opportunity and it could be an opportunity to open that line of communication and say, Hey, like let's talk about this.
Let, let me share, you know, what's going on. And I understand why it's so interesting. Several years ago, my mother-in-law had. Frozen shoulder. And, um, I, I, there was, she never even connected to that. She was gonna doctor, doctor, doctor, doctor. And now I've heard that so many times, I'm like, goodness. Wouldn't it have been nice to know, hey, this is kind of, it's lame, but it is part of this transition.
It doesn't last forever. Um, and knowing that this is happening could kind of help you be an advocate and also [00:33:00] help you better understand things. Yes. And, and it's ni it's nice to know that you don't ha that you're not going crazy. Yeah. Okay. You're not this, this say, am I nuts? All these different things are happening to me.
I don't understand why am I completely falling apart? No, you're just shifting. Yeah, I like to think of it as the opposite of puberty, right? I mean, when, when teenagers go through puberty, you're like, what's going on? You are a crazy person. And maybe it's like the, the circle of life or whatever, you know, you're like, okay, what's going on?
I'm a crazy person again. You know, it's, it's funny, my son went through puberty when I hit perimenopause, so you know what a household this was. At that time, and I was also driving a school bus, so it, it was just, it was just very, at a very interesting period. Yes. That's crazy. Oh, awesome. Thank you so much for sharing your expertise.
For anyone that wants to, um, learn more, Ali's gonna teach us go deep, deeper, dive in a masterclass for our [00:34:00] women's wellness hub. We're gonna be, she's titling it hormones to heat. We're gonna talk about increasing sex, sexual desire. Um, so that's a, a deeper dive for anyone that wants to join us. But will you please let us know where we can find you to get more information and get more support?
Or you could find [email protected], that there, you'll find all my information. Um, I'm also on TikTok. The Passion Zone has periods, the period, passion, period, zone, period. Not now. It was not period at the end, but the period. Yeah. Um, yeah, find me in those places. Center for my newsletter. I, I send 'em out once a week and in each of them I also put an aphrodisia cocktail and cocktail.
For you to enjoy. Awesome. Thank you so much. Thank you.
